Wait til you bring home stall mats haha. Downside of a classic squat rack, I suppose. You have to add it all yourself and pay more for it. I’d love to read reviews from someone using one of their Collegiate or R3 3×3 racks, ditto anything in that price point from Sorinex. I guess you’ve answered that haha. You never know what Rogue will also cook up in the future. Nice. Strong lifters need an 11-gauge rack. 500-lbs on the hooks and 800-lbs on the safeties is too low for someone will a heavy squat. I got satin clear on the RML and ordered the same on the Monster. I guess I should’ve figured that given the state of things right now. Just something to think about. Just isn’t necessary. Seems someone has been getting a hand out from rogue.dont downfall the titan unless youve used it first hand.there titan 3 hd deep is 11 gauge 2×3 and is a very quality built unit.yes maybe back in the day there were problems,but they seem to have cleaned there act up. 2 years and I squat about 320#. Nice color choice too. Ive only been up to 315# so far. I’ve used your site a lot for your excellent information. Are there any other short racks which may be more suitable? I still think it is a great value. I know this is a really dumb question, but is this rack usable and safe enough? To protect the joints? Thats at least $1500 new. This seems like a great rack for Canadian buyers since it is built in Canada and is only $625 delivered (price is in CDN dollars which is great). Included accessories (before upgrades) include basic J-cups, pin-pipe safeties, and a basic pull-up bar. You already own it. And it’s 1-year on the Beater, not lifetime. There are a ton of new skins, a new Battle Pass, new event, and loads more! But, for any exercises inside the rack, the plates should never reach the floor because of the safeties, right? The 390F is a 30″ deep rack rather than a 24″, but that’s still not even really close to the 43″ of the standard 490. How does it do head to head with the Rogue RML3 or the 390 BT for that matter. If one wants truly high end that isnt a poor to mediocre design like hammer strength one should look at power lift and dynamic. http://www.vulcanstrength.com/Vulcan-Slim-Fit-Power-Rack-p/vpr-sf1.htm. Wish I’d have had this article years ago! The rack is still pretty much the same at its core – lowest bid scrap metal, paint instead of powder coat, low-grade hardware, and so on. I thought I already posted a comment about this, but I don’t see it. I had only seen this model rack list for $225.00 used, but it was always too far away for a âlocal pickupâ to be considered, in my case. 1 order random out 50 orders get a discount or something? Also there is nothing wrong with seated press in my opinion. My parents didn’t do that with me and I wish they had. It’s an okay price; gets better the more weight is involved. Not ideal but better than nothing? I’ll still pick one up eventually for a review but I’m in no hurry on that one haha. In my humble opinion it is the best squat stand for garage use. I would try to find out how adjustable those spotter arms really are though. I heard a guy say if you are squatting heavy you will need rear plate storage. The best experience I had with Rogue was still ordering through their APO when I was deployed to Iraq within a US formation. If you didn’t notice, I don’t bring EliteFTS up very often either. For instance, the 490C is equipped with a nameplate rather than just a standard rear crossmember. It might also be because all their good deals, extra options and discounts aren’t available here and one can’t help but be a bit jealous. I strongly suggest anyone considering this rack to account for 3″ hole-spacing and the use of the safety pins in your decision-making. If you do already own one of the SML Squat Stands, the conversion kit will run $245 with all of the same upgrade options for safety and storage. Well the Rep is an imported product, and the quality of steel and hardware; while not bad; just won’t match that of the Rogue racks. The j-cups are hefty; the dip attachment is rock solid, and the spotter arms are so heavy it’s almost a workout taking them on and off. The pull-up bar is a little basic and the hole (notch) spacing is not ideal at what looks to be like 4″, but it is still a seriously beefy and stable rack. ultimately, a power rack is a must-have for any serious lifter. You might could get away with it on something like the HR-2 Half Rack if you do in fact use the rear uprights for plate storage… you know, weigh that sucker down, but generally dip stations and most band work go out the window if a smaller rack is just sitting on the ground. Both will outlive us. The squat stands with connecting pull-up bar are almost the same. Really just hoping to find value in a solid rack, but need it to be safe. thanks again for your site, and for any advice. Sorry but I got another question: should I put anything under the rack? I don’t think it’s bad, but I don’t think it’s especially good either. It is made with non-standard 12-gauge, 2.4² tubing, it has optional anchoring holes, extended Westside spacing, built-in bar storage, and has a very low base price of just $499. Even If I don’t buy a lat tower, Im leaning towards the power tech. It is noise-dampening with the rubber, and you really want to be squatting on a hard surface anyway. Just look at what pull-up bar is used for each rack, and look for enough extra holes on the sides of the uprights to move it down. I just listed my Rogue HR-2 (incl. That unit has to be bolted all the same, so why put the feet inside the rack? You will also need a pull-up bar, and those are already built into power racks and many squat stands. The Build-Your-Own Power Rack isn’t the most elaborate power rack out there, but it’s very strong, it has all of the necessary accessories, and is incredibly affordable compared to the likes of Rogue and even Rep Fitness. “Arm day!”. The height of the rear uprights is 70″ and 90″ respectively. Seems like these differences would affect stability when the weight is slammed back into the rack after a heavy lift. Legend Fitness, Half rack spotters like the ones from Rogue can hold a lot of weight, way more than the majority of lifters will put on their back in their lifetime, and certainly more than they’ll ever bench. Have you thought about reviewing the IronMinds Vulcan squat rack? I currently have a cheap bar with 200lbs of plates. I’d never buy Titan myself, but I know a lot of people do. It has 14 different barbell positions and it comes with spotter arms (so you can still bench on this rack), but I’ll bet you need to be fairly strict as the spotters are pretty damn short. Also four uprights instead of two gives you twice as many locations for accessories. Where do you keep all this stuff you buy lol. The price of the base HR-2 is also very, very reasonable, and there’s really no reason why it would ever become necessary to upgrade this rack. It also requires no anchoring. You can still get high-quality Chinese steel shipped to the states for less than you can get US steel for in your own state, so that’s what most companies unable to manufacturer their own products do (which is most of them). I’ve never planned to review it though because the review would basically say exactly what you just said about being light and space-saving and a classic, followed by “but it’s just too expensive”. I’m sure the rogue would have been top off the line, but eight hundred was just too much for me. It’s an interesting unit. In terms of accessories, all standard Monster Lite accessories work with the 490C, and they look pretty badass too since the accessories are typically black and match the hardware. It’s basically an imported variation of the HR-2 that I’ll discuss next. I’ve considered the RML-390F. It looks like you have to pay extra for that plate storage section, and the pulley, and the multi-grip pull-up, and most things in that picture actually if I’m reading that right. 4) Space pretty limited around the rack, J-cups look kind of small for something with 3″ spacing but depending on the size of the holes you could replace them with something taller from a different company. As far as lasting 10 plus years, odd comment. You can’t lift outside of a power rack (like as with a half rack or squat stand) unless it’s anchored down. These are all lower-cost, mid-range bars than can handle those heavy squats and deadlifts. The SML-2 was the only interisting Black Friday Special (10 units, all sold) on the Rogue Europe homepage â except you love Compression Socks… In an effort to not over-crowd this already long-winded article I opted to make a separate page for these folding racks, and you can see that here. Its no different than buying a computer, one could buy a bare bones setup with Dell or could buy a 3500 setup. Actually it has reached the point that whenever I am shopping for new equipment I first check to see if JB has covered anything on it. They can’t keep anything in stock and were definitely unable to stockpile for the annual sale, so they just canned it for the year. When you look at the price of this rack compared to the Rogue and all of the extras that it has, it becomes super obvious which is the better deal (and by a lot! 100″ isn’t bad. I am going to show you a lot of different power racks, cages, and squat stands in this article and also give you some things to watch out for when shopping for yours; all with the goal of improving the chances of you getting exactly what you want and need the first time around. There is an X-Mark that I linked to in smaller text under the Body Solid. Vulcan, Well except one thing. I didn’t really get the impression he was holding wobble against the rack in that review, but you’re right he should have anchored it if he was going to compare them like that. 8) Also, I am reading one should eat a whole lot more and order to put on muscle but my concern is that I will also add bodyfat if I do that. Nicely written, than you for the excellent guide. You definitely don’t need almost 30″ of space between the top of the rack and your ceiling. Otherwise it’s rock solid. I won’t pay $175 for both most likely. The pull up bar might as well be buttered that knurling is so smooth. This rack uses 2″x3″ Steel in place of the 3″x3″ that Rogue uses but is otherwise the same. The larger R4/RML-4s are only really good for using things like safety straps or adding certain attachments like a monolift, but 30″ isn’t enough for that anyway so why take up more floor space. One important goal for many users of the whole idea of a garage gym is to use spare time in-between a busy life to get things done. best exercise equipment, Thoughts? Matter of fact I don’t think there is a single picture that shows what you get for the base price. Probably better than buying a rack off Amazon in most cases though. https://www.fringesport.com/collections/squat-racks/products/onefitwonder-power-cage At $335 itâs actually a pretty good price on a light weight garage squat stand. I’m sure that it’s fine being it’s actually a Westside product, but my thought was if I was gonna do it I’d do it the right way. recommendation for short racks based on height issues in the room. Have been looking around, seems like Rep is a good brand, good price for value. Thanks for the quick reply. I’m sure that since they offer a lot of the same accessories, why would they want you to go to Rogue for them. Preferably uk. Think I’ll go with Rogue — just seems like the best way to go, especially at that price point. I’m all about you saving your cash where ever possible, but sometimes you risk way too much. This unit is simple and affordable and takes up very little space. Floor mounting feet, different pull-up attachments, and spotter arms are all optional. Grats on the rack! Jump to Basement Racks! The RM3 Bolt Together is intended to ease transport and installation in tighter locations that wouldn’t allow fully welded rack pieces to fit through; like stairs to a basement, for instance. 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If you’re a lifetime lifter you’ll likely replace it. What is your opinion on echo vs infinity vs ml vs m? It might seem impossible to you that all custom-written essays, research papers, speeches, book reviews, and other custom task completed by our writers are both of high quality and cheap. I definitely don’t like the way they showcase a much larger purchase in those pictures though. Also, itâs hard to understand how the RM-390 is nearly 1200, while it is not that different from the RML-390 at approx $800. I’m so glad I have room for a rack. I’d personally love to review more racks like the CPR1, but I just don’t have the space! You could do something like that 163 if you don’t mind no outside accessory compatibility and what looks like 3″ spacing in between cup/safety holes. Yeah I thought you meant hardwood floors; like indoors somewhere. Prices start at $695 and $755, respectively. If you can guide a bar back into those, you can guide it back into anything. I’ve owned two other power cages through the years. (Without the latter, the AFO Premium sells for $145,000.) who knows what will be available at that time. Ability to use nylon straps (if wanted) for safeties Don’t forget to add the FB-5000 and Deep Knurl Power Bar to your order, as these are two other Rep products that are just stellar, and they’ll basically ship for free with your rack order. For instance, UHMW is used instead of rubber slabs on J-cups, and the washer was removed from the spotter arms. I wasn’t. Pretty solid idea. I can’t imagine it would make that big of a difference. That’s many older houses actual interior ceiling height. Hammer Strength and Powerlift cater to commercial/collegiate facilities. On the SML-2 you can lower it into two different lower positions that are about 6″ apart. These folding racks are strong, affordable and can be somewhat versatile. I was looking at them a while back as a possible review product but never pulled the trigger. Two bad power racks is not cheaper than one good power rack. Tier 2 Twisted Appendage: Your attacks have a chance to spawn a tentacle which Mind Flays your target for 75% Attack or Spell Power Shadow damage every second for 10 sec. Found the manufacture of the Iron Mind squat stand. The stabilizer helps keep everything lined up properly, and stops a rack only joined at the top of the uprights from excessive lateral swaying. Yeah Rogue offers the uprights on their site. The Rogue HR-2 is a great half rack option, and one of the better options for a garage gym, as it takes up so little space, has so many potential features (like plate storage), and Rogue has so many accessory and attachment options that can be added as needed. I found some in the closeout section for great prices. SML, This half rack is about as badass as half racks come. The front stabilizer feet are elevated making them ideal for band work; the accessory holes are laser-cut numbered; the finish is beautiful, and I don’t think that a taller half rack exists outside of the commercial market. Next post: Rep Fitness AB-5200 Adjustable Bench, Previous post: A Look At The Fringe Sport Savage Bumper Plates, Exercise Equipment Reviews and Weightlifting Articles. ), I’m thinking of also maybe getting the rml 490 and adding plate storage with the pins. It defeats the purpose of upgrading to not actually upgrade, you know? R6, You’d have to bolt deeper than just the wood flooring to keep it in place. (Note: it appears that TSS does not offer this config anymore and I am aware of what has been said about TSS on the interwebs prior to purchasing this used unit). Such a great feature to have. Every once in a while if I don’t get centered and my form gets soft up I’ll brush a spotter, but never so hard to do any damage. You’ll still have to deal with wide safety spotter arms or straps if you go that route. I have steel plates right now, and I think thats all I need because I don’t plan on ever doing olympic lifts. I get a little limited being in Atlantic Canada but luckily I do live fairly close to the border. It strengthens the relationship and sometimes leads to more exchange of ideas and views. One at a time, even though everyone has their own platform. Elite in particular has removed pricing from their site which makes it even harder to get a grip on the cost of kitting out each line on an already difficult-to-buy product, which is disappointing. The plate storage on the rear uprights is great – most people just either can’t afford a rack like this or simply don’t have the space for it. I like the ETE rack because it includes plate storage (which is extra on the Rogue products). 1) No racks significantly higher than 90”, So since I’m not bolting it down, do I need three layers of plywood in my platform? I have also started to keep my eyes open for ‘basement-appropriate’ racks so that you’re not stuck with only the “classic” squat stand option. http://www.texasstrengthsystems.com/products/racks-stands/used-25-x-25-power-rack I’m interested in ATX® POWER RACK PRX-655 SD. Now I am deciding between the R3 and the EliteFTS garage line. /shrug. I don’t hate it, but I’m glad I don’t have to consider it personally lol. I’d love to have a half-rack or squat stand plus pull up bar if I can comfortably fit it, but the calculus required to try and see where my pull-up bar would need to be is tough. They tend to do a good job with that line compared to some of their lesser, lighter-duty lines. This unit is available in 4 total heights up to a very tall 108″. Unfortunately, the spotter arms are optional and an extra expense. I did not know that about the Slim rack. Content is for informational or entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for personal counsel or professional advice in business, financial, legal, or technical matters.. 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How does the EliteFTS 3×3 or 2×2 stack up against the Rogue? jburgeson September 3, 2015, 10:34 am So are there any cons to owning the HR-5000? Does any one have any comments on the XTC Fitness XSS3 squat rack. My question is on the stability if a full box cage vs. square uprights vs. “U” uprights. Does the fringe sport rack seem like decent value to you? Finally, and this is just a personal thing, but those 9″-square feet are totally unnecessary. Just curious if anyone has seen one, has one, or used one? Thoughts appreciated! Full racks also tend to require more floor space, although that is not always the case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1cEVXgyQ2o. :D. Lots of these places do alright and don’t really try that hard to grow. Picked up the new Fringe sport bumpers thanks to your review. My wife is pushing for the HR-2 a lot, not so much due to foot print – but also that almost half the footprint is only the feet sticking out. I’ve used Legend Fitness racks and can recommend them: good quality at a decent price. With the Power Rack you can unrack the bar from the J-hooks on your upper-back. I’m taking on the project of turning my garage into a home fitness centre. So in terms of function and affordability, it’s not awful but it does have some drawbacks. For instance, the bar catchers suck and should have just been normal J-cups (see below). Hey – appreciate your quick response. I currently have a (used) Rogue Monster rig. When you load one side beyond the base, you risk tipping. Course on nice days, I suppose you could drag the bar outside to press. I just want people to be safe. Thanks. Also are the spotter arms shorter on a half rack rather than a full power rack? It seems like the 8ga steel alone would make this the heaviest duty unit of the bunch. Hey so first off, thanks for all the reviews! Also have you heard anything about their bars? Not everybody does. I like the SML-2. They are out of stock for a few weeks on the One Bar unfortunately, but I do prefer getting an American made bar anyways. They don’t offer much technical data; like the gauge of steel used, but they claim a 1000 pound capacity on the squat stands so at least we know that it’s not going to be super light-duty like say 14-gauge… like something you’d get at Academy or Dick’s. OK as a rule of thumb, not a huge fan of AgainFaster, but there new squat stand 3.0 with half rack conversion seems enticing. The only thing that makes them any less safe or durable or aesthetically pleasing is the subpar materials used (cheap steel, hardware, coating materials) and the quality of the workmanship (welds, cuts, etc). Also, it’s just the bumpers they do the sale with I think (pairs and sets), but not packages. Thank you for your help. Also I still am not sure what to buy. The bar was so smooth it felt buttered. Good for rack pulls and probably fine for bench, not going to be great for squats. Also, i have a crappy bar from a weight set right now. But for the life of me I can’t figure out why they didn’t make it so you could have a pull-up bar. So if your goal is to have your rack and storage in one compact unit, a half rack is the way to go. Additionally, there is a multi-grip pull-up bar and 2 pairs of resistance band pegs. Also, it’s hard to understand how the RM-390 is nearly 1200, while it is not that different from the RML-390 at approx $800. Exchanging my monster light because I wanted the numbers and flip down safeties. Let’s see. After watching a video review about the Rogue safety straps 2.0, I quickly sold my Rogue HR-2 just in time for Rogueâs Annual Matte Black Friday sale and ordered-up a RML-490C and had Rogue swap/credit me for the normally included pin-pipe safeties and charge me a little more to instead get the appropriate-sized Safety Straps 2.0 for the power rack (along with some other upgrades I had requested.) You got a good price on that at $450. It is not a bad price, but not nearly as sweet of a deal as the storage unit. No room for accessory / attachment growth, low weight capacity, and of course it’s pretty small. Does that thing anchor down? At $699 shipped, you’re looking at a unit with spotter arms, pull-up bar, bar storage and plate storage already included in the price. There are also band pegs, numbered holes, and anchor holes should you choose to use them. Still though, if you’re a way above average lifter and the safety pipes make you feel better, then I get it. I made the small rack recommendations I did simply because of the steel used. At least not for many years. It’s a much higher quality than the Amazon garbage, but it’s still very affordable because it’s not American made. Spotter arms are strong, but if that 750 number something you’re actually squatting then I would probably be in the same boat as you with my thinking.. that is to say, I’d feel more comfortable in a full-size rack with either a drop-in spotter or pin/pipe safety system; something with two connection points. Just curious as iâm still deciding between the SML-2 and this one. Picking up a rack is definitely good savings, and if you’re near SA then go for it. I need a bigger garage so bad. There is definitely some weight that your rack could weigh with plates and all that would prevent it from sliding towards you as your row, but what that weight would be is a mystery to me. I think just grabbing a plate tree and not having to worry about plates getting in the way would be the better route to go and eliminate the need to bench off the front of the rack all together. How much am I going to pay for shipping? Head on below for the file sizes for each platfrm, as well as the full SMITE Season 8 patch notes! Only reason I say maybe it’s worth paying the extra money for a Rogue is because that extra money is so little. So what is your opinion on echo vs infinity vs monster light vs monster? So…I won’t be testing the limits on any equipment any time soon (or ever). Looks a lot like the GetRxed Guillotine rack. And it’s not like it happens like all out-of-control fast. The wood platform is for the Olympic lifts; feels more like the stage. We are there for you worldwide - for sales, product support and personal customer … I soon realized that occasionally âtouchingâ the spotter bars (when benching) was super-distracting (for me, anyway) and a bit unnerving. Also i would probably get the four, so can you tell me the problem with the rod pipe safties for the 4 you had? Ya they do look like copies. Shorter generally means cheaper with full-size racks. Don’t push those max capacities. It’s probably gonna be Rogue unless you want to ask Vulcan what’s up with theirs. Bolt down rack. Just use screws, and don’t screw in anything until you’ve got all of the first two layers 100% flush and flat on the ground. I squat and bench on mine, weights in the 250kg range, so it will handle the weight……. This is fine…until you are squatting a lot of weight, and don’t want to think about things like this after a heavy set. TIA for any feedback. With the money saved, I am considering a Rogue Adjustable Monolift for use with my 2â x 3â TSS uprights, as I just discovered (no thanks to Rogue’s website or their search function, I might add) that for an additional $47.40, I could purchase their âMLITE to Infinity Retrofit Kit – Pairâ to âadaptâ their “Rogue Adjustable Monolift – Monster Liteâ (for Monster Lite Series 3â x 3â uprights) to work with the Infinity Series 2â x 3â uprights. Thanks for the great review. Btw thank you so much for all your advice, you have helped me out a lot. Sorinex ends up being expensive as their shipping or 3-4 times more than Rogue. American Barbell has the trainer on sale for $249 I think – that’s a very durable alternative to the Wonder as well. Those with tons of plates and chains will benefit from a rack with six uprights. This cage, as with all Legend Fitness equipment, is made-to-order; meaning you get to pick your frame color but you have to wait for production. A large variety of accessories is made available for this Legend rack: dip attachment, spotter arms, landmine, band pegs and even two tone paint. $650. Through contacting Rogue Europe there is also the below option, https://www.rogueeurope.eu/sml-1-rogue-70-monster-lite-squat-stand-1-eu. Seems like the Rogue is just a better package overall, but again when it comes down to function, both will serve the same purpose.
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